but why should the conversation at college pertain to who has "privilege" over others? Every one of those kids made it into college so they are all on an equal playing field.
PsyChoCrazyBOi
she looks like the typical conservative. I don't think her type of people get out much…..
Austin Weightman
I have a priviledge that runs in my family, its called govenment employee priviledge.
Steve Carney
I am a student at Appalachian State, and for the most part, we are liberal democrats. Once in a while I'll run into a conservative. But it was surprising that this woman felt so offended she had to go on national television (Fox News–blegh!) and complain!
oscardaone
She looks and acts generic.
CW AtWork
I want to say that I think this woman is being kinda silly for being this offended by the board. But I think everyone saying "I don't see how anyone could be made uncomfortable by this" is being extremely dishonest.
When you criticize someone, it generally isn't helpful, even if it's completely valid, unless you give it constructively. You need to demonstrate that you care about that person, instead of just trying to tear them down. You don't help someone with alcoholism by telling them that they're an alcoholic over and over again. And aspects of privileges are much less tangible than that, since people often unconsciously participate, if they do at all. Not all white privileges necessarily apply to all white people.
If you don't understand why accusations of privilege make someone defensive, you're being ridiculous. Also, there's a certain amount of irony here because the point of pointing out privilege is to teach majority groups empathy for minority groups, but minority groups often have little interest in empathizing with majority groups.
And I'm not necessarily saying that people should care if majority groups feeling are hurt by accusations of privilege, I'm just saying it's silly to show no interest in the feelings of a group of people, and then tell them they're wrong for feeling the way they feel.
CW AtWork
I gotta say that I love the irony that she unwittingly expresses her privilege that she's surprised that something make her feel uncomfortable in the dorm, where non-whites would probably be surprised if something didn't make them feel uncomfortable in the dorm.
liberalboi
What a detestable human being that girl is.
Nunya Bidnis
Fuck that sign. I'm not a racist or a homophobe, but somehow I'm doing five or six things wrong just by existing.
Liza Tanzawa
Typical whiney conservative playing the victim card. The prison of the narrow mind.
akshin1556
I found it particularly interesting, at 1:07, when Cenk suggested that a discussion of "female privilege" might also be useful.
In my experience, most people (both men and women) are willing to acknowledge that both genders are discriminated against, and that both forms of gender bias are wrong and need to be remedied.
But I have also encountered men and women who insist that "female privilege" simply doesn't exist. There are people who adamantly maintain that there is no such thing as a gender bias that favors women, and that "female privilege" is just a misogynistic myth.
There are also people who do acknowledge that gender biases against men exist, but then insist that they're irrelevant, or "non-issues," because biases against women are so much worse. Or better yet, they claim that biases against men are actually good, because they supposedly help to "balance out" society's biases against women.
Never mind that at least some of the men who are hurt by these biases are actually women's rights advocates themselves. Or the fact that men don't exist in a vacuum, and a bias that hurts men will invariably also hurt the women and children in their lives.
I don't have a problem with putting up a bulletin board about the privileges that go with being white, male, upper class, heterosexual, cisgendered, or able-bodied.
I do think it would have been better to have a more comprehensive board talking about the privileges given to different races, both genders, and so forth, rather than focusing only on the majority groups.
Lanoira13
I've read the posters, and they aren't inherently offensive, but I don't know if they should be on a dorm floor bulletin board. They do make people uncomfortable in a place they PAY to live in, and given the RA's seemingly smug assish message "If you don't understand, come let me enlighten you.", it seems like it is meant to shame people for "not being discriminated against" or more so not agreeing with privilege (at least in their individual case), and belittle them. The RA is not entitled to post THEIR opinions, or political or social philosophies on the floor bulletin. If something like that makes people uncomfortable, it should be taken down. Put it on your door if you like, but that isn't what the bulletin board is for.
Sean Hayes
I'm going to lib out and say the board should've been more equal. If they have male and white privilege, they should have female and black privilege (ie. more available scholarships or getting into the college with lesser grades).
killaken2000
The idea of the bulletin board was coming from a good place. However, sometimes things can get adversarial very quickly and 'check your privilege' can sometimes be used as a way to negate another persons opinion or as an attack on that person for being a born into a certain group.
I don't know if it is that was the atmosphere at that school but it is something to be aware of.
Lugh314
I'm very much an atheist, and I'd probably be offended by that board too. (For entirely different reasons… and I wouldn't go on the news to bitch about it, but still…)
233kosta
Didn't see any "female privilege" on that board. Not an accurate reflection of reality.
WOLFNBEAST
I just recently graduated from appstate. That girl is full of shit. White people and Christians are not being discriminated against, and honestly I haven't seen much discrimination on either side at appstate. People use the bulletin boards and the graffiti tunnel to express their opinions, if you don't like it don't look at it.
Young2Kauri
ERMAGHERD! GOOSEBERMPS AND PREHVEHLEGEZ!
Anderson Blooper
She looks annoying.
Josh Brown
I agreed with everything Cenk said, EXCEPT, for that last sentence, that all conservatives aren't willing to change their views. I love TYT but they always take the few crazy conservatives and the few crazy Christians and criticize them, which they should. BUT, they always then make a statement that groups all conservatives and all Christians to this one particular bigot. That's the only thing I don't like about this channel
Double Wide Productions
If you follow any of this on tumblr, there is something wrong with you if you have "privilege".
Tosi kuvesi
Am I the only one who thinks her face looks like an X-wing?
Dora Glasberg
She's a bad drag. Looks like Chris Farley. She looka likea man!
ThreePalmsII
Do conservatives ever look like they don't have a pole stuffed up their ass?
jeffrey18930576
National Geographic Magazine September 2001 "Changing America", By Joel L. Swerdlow American High School Class: "I don't want to be white," says a white student from Poland. I'm in the library with a cross section of students who volunteered to speak with me. Others agree with the Polish-born youth, but I'm confused. They explain. To call someone "white" is an insult, as are synonymous terms like Wonder bread. "I don't consider myself white," says a young woman from Russia. She has white skin. "Whites act white and do white stuff." "What's 'white stuff?'" I ask. "White kids act different. They hang out differently. Whites are privileged. They're smart, do homework on time, run the student government, participate in plays and musicals, sell stuff, have parents who are involved in the school." "When you go to apply for a job," says one boy, "you have to act white." Most white students remain silent during these discussions. "I won't apologize for being white," says one. If achievement—or at least too much achievement—is unfashionable and achievement, as they have defined it, is "white," then "white" is not cool." Very sad. You can read the whole article if you Google the title.
The brown eyed / blue eyed exercise was also used on white kids in elementary school which was an institutionalized diversity bullying program that continued long after the lesson was supposed to be over. You can see that on you tube. They use adults on YT but in school they do the same thing on first graders.
K Gordon
I wish someone at the university would take a picture of the poster that was quoted about "finding out what's wrong with [them]". It seems to be paraphrased and I'm curious about what it actually said.
Lindsey Wong
I learned about this in college too. I never took this offensively. It was very interesting for me and I would like to see this board more closely to see what they wrote.
Erichev
This board is RACIST! If it included both sides of each story then it would be neutral. To say male privilege you are implying that you aren't offered what I am offered as a man. I don't see you bitching when I am the one asked to carry something. White and Hetero privilege are a left wing made up hoax. I can find privilege in any race. Stop reporting as if you have one agenda TYT. Start being a reliable news source and not a left wing PR machine.
Ricky Spanish
I am a conservative who never agrees with you, but I have to say, that board would not bother me at all.
Lisa-Marie Shanley
I used to find Cenk annoying but the more I watch him the more I like the way he talks. He's light-hearted but makes very good points, and can make a joke out of a situation without being offensive.
booley
the problem with talking about privilege is that it's too easy for people to get defensive and think this somehow becomes a judgement against them. The attempt to foster empathy for people who are different backfires into this Us vs Them. It's ironic in that part of privilege is not having to even acknowledge you have it.
And no privilege doesn't' mean your life is somehow made without hardship.
but why should the conversation at college pertain to who has "privilege" over others? Every one of those kids made it into college so they are all on an equal playing field.
she looks like the typical conservative. I don't think her type of people get out much…..
I have a priviledge that runs in my family, its called govenment employee priviledge.
I am a student at Appalachian State, and for the most part, we are liberal democrats. Once in a while I'll run into a conservative. But it was surprising that this woman felt so offended she had to go on national television (Fox News–blegh!) and complain!
She looks and acts generic.
I want to say that I think this woman is being kinda silly for being this offended by the board. But I think everyone saying "I don't see how anyone could be made uncomfortable by this" is being extremely dishonest.
When you criticize someone, it generally isn't helpful, even if it's completely valid, unless you give it constructively. You need to demonstrate that you care about that person, instead of just trying to tear them down. You don't help someone with alcoholism by telling them that they're an alcoholic over and over again. And aspects of privileges are much less tangible than that, since people often unconsciously participate, if they do at all. Not all white privileges necessarily apply to all white people.
If you don't understand why accusations of privilege make someone defensive, you're being ridiculous. Also, there's a certain amount of irony here because the point of pointing out privilege is to teach majority groups empathy for minority groups, but minority groups often have little interest in empathizing with majority groups.
And I'm not necessarily saying that people should care if majority groups feeling are hurt by accusations of privilege, I'm just saying it's silly to show no interest in the feelings of a group of people, and then tell them they're wrong for feeling the way they feel.
I gotta say that I love the irony that she unwittingly expresses her privilege that she's surprised that something make her feel uncomfortable in the dorm, where non-whites would probably be surprised if something didn't make them feel uncomfortable in the dorm.
What a detestable human being that girl is.
Fuck that sign. I'm not a racist or a homophobe, but somehow I'm doing five or six things wrong just by existing.
Typical whiney conservative playing the victim card. The prison of the narrow mind.
I found it particularly interesting, at 1:07, when Cenk suggested that a discussion of "female privilege" might also be useful.
In my experience, most people (both men and women) are willing to acknowledge that both genders are discriminated against, and that both forms of gender bias are wrong and need to be remedied.
But I have also encountered men and women who insist that "female privilege" simply doesn't exist. There are people who adamantly maintain that there is no such thing as a gender bias that favors women, and that "female privilege" is just a misogynistic myth.
There are also people who do acknowledge that gender biases against men exist, but then insist that they're irrelevant, or "non-issues," because biases against women are so much worse. Or better yet, they claim that biases against men are actually good, because they supposedly help to "balance out" society's biases against women.
Never mind that at least some of the men who are hurt by these biases are actually women's rights advocates themselves. Or the fact that men don't exist in a vacuum, and a bias that hurts men will invariably also hurt the women and children in their lives.
I don't have a problem with putting up a bulletin board about the privileges that go with being white, male, upper class, heterosexual, cisgendered, or able-bodied.
I do think it would have been better to have a more comprehensive board talking about the privileges given to different races, both genders, and so forth, rather than focusing only on the majority groups.
I've read the posters, and they aren't inherently offensive, but I don't know if they should be on a dorm floor bulletin board. They do make people uncomfortable in a place they PAY to live in, and given the RA's seemingly smug assish message "If you don't understand, come let me enlighten you.", it seems like it is meant to shame people for "not being discriminated against" or more so not agreeing with privilege (at least in their individual case), and belittle them. The RA is not entitled to post THEIR opinions, or political or social philosophies on the floor bulletin. If something like that makes people uncomfortable, it should be taken down. Put it on your door if you like, but that isn't what the bulletin board is for.
I'm going to lib out and say the board should've been more equal. If they have male and white privilege, they should have female and black privilege (ie. more available scholarships or getting into the college with lesser grades).
The idea of the bulletin board was coming from a good place. However, sometimes things can get adversarial very quickly and 'check your privilege' can sometimes be used as a way to negate another persons opinion or as an attack on that person for being a born into a certain group.
I don't know if it is that was the atmosphere at that school but it is something to be aware of.
I'm very much an atheist, and I'd probably be offended by that board too. (For entirely different reasons… and I wouldn't go on the news to bitch about it, but still…)
Didn't see any "female privilege" on that board. Not an accurate reflection of reality.
I just recently graduated from appstate. That girl is full of shit. White people and Christians are not being discriminated against, and honestly I haven't seen much discrimination on either side at appstate. People use the bulletin boards and the graffiti tunnel to express their opinions, if you don't like it don't look at it.
ERMAGHERD! GOOSEBERMPS AND PREHVEHLEGEZ!
She looks annoying.
I agreed with everything Cenk said, EXCEPT, for that last sentence, that all conservatives aren't willing to change their views. I love TYT but they always take the few crazy conservatives and the few crazy Christians and criticize them, which they should. BUT, they always then make a statement that groups all conservatives and all Christians to this one particular bigot. That's the only thing I don't like about this channel
If you follow any of this on tumblr, there is something wrong with you if you have "privilege".
Am I the only one who thinks her face looks like an X-wing?
She's a bad drag.
Looks like Chris Farley.
She looka likea man!
Do conservatives ever look like they don't have a pole stuffed up their ass?
National Geographic Magazine September 2001 "Changing America", By Joel L. Swerdlow
American High School Class:
"I don't want to be white," says a white student from Poland. I'm in the
library with a cross section of students who volunteered to speak with me.
Others agree with the Polish-born youth, but I'm confused.
They explain. To call someone "white" is an insult, as are synonymous
terms like Wonder bread. "I don't consider myself white," says a young
woman from Russia. She has white skin. "Whites act white and do white stuff."
"What's 'white stuff?'" I ask.
"White kids act different. They hang out differently. Whites are privileged. They're
smart, do homework on time, run the student government, participate in
plays and musicals, sell stuff, have parents who are involved in the
school."
"When you go to apply for a job," says one boy, "you have to act white."
Most white students remain silent during these discussions. "I won't apologize for being white," says one.
If achievement—or at least too much achievement—is
unfashionable and achievement, as they have defined it, is "white," then
"white" is not cool."
Very sad. You can read the whole article if you Google the title.
The brown eyed / blue eyed exercise was also used on white kids in elementary school which was an institutionalized diversity bullying program that continued long after the lesson was supposed to be over. You can see that on you tube. They use adults on YT but in school they do the same thing on first graders.
I wish someone at the university would take a picture of the poster that was quoted about "finding out what's wrong with [them]". It seems to be paraphrased and I'm curious about what it actually said.
I learned about this in college too. I never took this offensively. It was very interesting for me and I would like to see this board more closely to see what they wrote.
This board is RACIST! If it included both sides of each story then it would be neutral. To say male privilege you are implying that you aren't offered what I am offered as a man. I don't see you bitching when I am the one asked to carry something. White and Hetero privilege are a left wing made up hoax. I can find privilege in any race. Stop reporting as if you have one agenda TYT. Start being a reliable news source and not a left wing PR machine.
I am a conservative who never agrees with you, but I have to say, that board would not bother me at all.
I used to find Cenk annoying but the more I watch him the more I like the way he talks. He's light-hearted but makes very good points, and can make a joke out of a situation without being offensive.
the problem with talking about privilege is that it's too easy for people to get defensive and think this somehow becomes a judgement against them. The attempt to foster empathy for people who are different backfires into this Us vs Them.
It's ironic in that part of privilege is not having to even acknowledge you have it.
And no privilege doesn't' mean your life is somehow made without hardship.